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Post by BigAndy9 Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:01 pm

2nd November 2015

Being trapped in a confined space, then drowning - awful.

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A woman may have been alive when she was stuffed into a suitcase and thrown into a canal in north-west London, the Old Bailey has heard.

The body of Marta Ligman, 23, was found in the Grand Union Canal in Little Venice days after it had been dumped.

A post mortem test revealed injuries from a beating and hypothermia caused by being trapped in a confined space.

Ms Ligman's boyfriend, Tomasz Kocik, 38, a Polish national, of Buckingham Road, Harlesden, denies murder.


Prosecutor Tim Cray told the court Ms Ligman was either "dead or dying" by the time she was dumped in the water.

He said: "If the initial attack had not killed her outright, the fact that she was then zipped into a suitcase and left inside would also have proved fatal."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34703328

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Post by eddie Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:06 am

That is the most horrific way to be for me.
I can't imagine anything worse actually.
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Post by BigAndy9 Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:29 am

eddie wrote:That is the most horrific way to be for me.
I can't imagine anything worse actually.

I remember being pinned down by my brothers when we used to mess around fighting when we were younger (i have older brothers) - awful feeling when you can't move, especially if your head is covered by a pillow or duvet or anything!
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Post by eddie Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:30 am

BigAndy9 wrote:
eddie wrote:That is the most horrific way to be for me.
I can't imagine anything worse actually.

I remember being pinned down by my brothers when we used to mess around fighting when we were younger (i have older brothers) - awful feeling when you can't move, especially if your head is covered by a pillow or duvet or anything!

Me too!!! Two older brothers and we used to play fight all the time and I hated being held down.

Suffocation is my fear tbh. So that poor woman's last moments must've been absolutely terrifying.
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